Predictions — Disaster In December 2008
By ejoyce on Nov 17, 2008 in Articles
Heads up! It’s time to talk about something different – another focus besides our incumbent President, is going on and ignored by the press. Several people have noted that usual thinking for military action (darkness, radar and all that) is on the New Moon Nov. 27 and Dec. 27). My thoughts are that just before the New Moon – within three to five days, the action is set.
There has been some Internet buzz about Nov. 23 – because that’s just about when Pluto changes signs. I have been repeatedly told -that whites are no longer prejudiced against blacks. Well - maybe a few. When I asked for a number - one correspondent told me 2%.I hope she is right. However, to quote a MSM news source - “There have been “hundreds” of incidents since the election, many more than usual, said Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate crimes.” Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say. University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said …”It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork,” I truly hope that I am wrong -and that these are just the exceptions. Still, there remains an active movement to prevent Obama from serving as president.
In my previous predictions I forgot to mention the hearing before the US Supreme Court on Dec. 5th. Is Obama an American citizen? I have no idea as to when - or what opinion may be rendered - but one against Obama - even post inauguration - would have - shall we say - interesting repercussions. If there were absolutely no danger of this happening - then there would be no need for a hearing.
We need to hunker down and begin to realize that there could be a nuclear attack in this country — and possibly by the end of the year.
Recently Somali pirates hijacked a large oil tanker owned by Saudi Arabian Oil Co. Failure to increase the protection of its fleet would likely compromise Saudi Aramco’s ability to sell oil to customers in the U.S. and Europe. OK — as many of you know — I am “seeing” no oil delivered to most of the homes on he East Coast, beginning just before Christmas and going deep into February. I see schools closing and used as shelters for thousands who cannot heat their homes. Mother Nature promises to bring about more snow and cold than experienced in recent years.
Please pray for peace.
According to over seas sources there is possibility of a forthcoming manned attack by Israel on Iran, targeting their nuclear installations, which would bring about a retaliation by the US Troops. President Bush stated that he would not leave office until the Iran situation was worked out. This one should take very seriously. All this activity could bring about two things:
a) The postponement of the Electoral College vote for Obama as President Elect.
b) A call for Martial Law enforcing restriction within America’s borders.
This would definitely drive energy and precious metals prices up and the US stock market could be affected in a negative way. This may be why I see a horrid market crash in early December as well as the Malls turning into Ghost Town Malls! This will lead all countries into a disruption to the global banking system in December ‘08.
Iran would try to close the Strait of Hormuz prompting a full-scale naval war. The largest war Israel and the Middle East has ever seen. Remember last April when I had that dream? I dreamt that there was a 400 mile radius of destruction and nuclear fall out across the Middle East that would not be habitable for at least thirty years.
I sense the date of December 15th 2008 will prove to be a very important one. I sense that an event of global proportions will occur on this date, much like Joe Biden prophesied during the election campaign. Before January 2009 Israel draws up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons, energy and precious metals will go up and stock market down.
Between Dec 1st and 5th the forces that be may take drastic action against more radical forces. By New Years day we find astral combined elements which bring us into a cycle almost like a stellar horrific concert! This is why the swearing in of Obama may indeed, be delayed, as Bush remains in office, and we are all under Martial Law, until matters are settled.
John F. Kennedy sworn in as President of the United States
No, I cannot get a vision of Obama getting sworn into office. Perhaps these are some of the reasons why. I believe President Bush when he said he would not leave office until the Iran situation was settled. All of our ships and troops are now focused on this upsetting possibility.
Please remember these are possibilities — not fact. Nothing is fact until it actually occurs. This blog is simply explaining why so many good psychics are receiving some very strange messages. And you think you get frustrated! Instead of calling us fakes or other names, try to understand the enormity of what has been written here. (I’m sure you will if and when you personally are forced to go into a shelter for several weeks with no food or personal bathroom facilities.)
If Obama is ever assassinated we will have a civil war, bombing and looting of our cities, and destruction like you have never witnessed! All stemming from within our borders.
Please continue your prayers and let me know if any of you are picking up on these energies.
Thank you for visiting my site!
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Senoria Land | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Beginning day one when the primaries started… I had a bad feeling or should I say a negative feeling regarding Obama. I could not understand why. I am Black, but I just could not feel him in the way that other Blacks did. When he won the president-elect, I became depressed, because my spirit or my gut-feeling was continously telling me something is not right with him!
M. LEE - OAK PARK, IL. | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
SENORIA LAND, I share the same experience with
OBAMA’S energies as you have… Many, many individuals nationwide who value my advise,
accused me of “HATER PLAYER” .. because I could
not see or feel him as our PRESIDENT…..
I could see an EAGLE around McCAIN .. a FOGGY
MIST around OBAMA.. Since McCAIN did not win
this could be because he is a WAR HERO…and/or
an AMERICAN…
I could not pick up any type of energy around
OBAMA, (just a mist) I attributed this to an
AURA that is HIDDEN … with the help of many
individuals and/or groups…
The vision I had around OBAMA was the number
five(5) in December that would have an impact
on his PRESIDENT ELECT status…I naturally
assumed that it would be the ELECTORAL COLLEGE
decision…
ELIZABETH, the December 5th date was in a reply
to one of your earlier ELECTION UPDATES I have
known for sometime that on or around this date
an impact would be made on this country….
Since the start of 2008, I have had two visions that will not go away…
1. A CITY on fire… not L.A. (accident fire)
2. A TRAIN, somewhere in the southwest,
burning..chemicals (deliberate)DESERT AREA
I am still having the above visions…
ELIZABETH, once again, THANK YOU FOR SHARING..
SENDING LIGHT, LOVE AND PROTECTION FOR ALL
GOD BLESS AMERICA
pal3 | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Michelle Whitedove have the same prediction below:
Florida officials started early to manipulate the 2008 election, they moved up the primary voting date in violation of both national Democratic and Republican party rules to purposely disqualify delegates. (How’s that even legal?) Then voter suppression started. As we came into the last week prior to the election the Republicans tried to spin a story to the media and to the people that John McCain had a chance at the presidency.
On Voting Day Nov 4th , police in major cities went to work with riot gear expecting civil unrest. LINK 1 The Shadow Government was planning on a race with close enough numbers that they could steal this election, just as the past two were stolen. The State of Florida was once again playing a pivotal role, withholding the real vote count waiting to see if they could continue their vote rigging practices and give the electoral vote to McCain. But Americans came out in record numbers for Obama. The voter’s free will, the mass consciousness prevailed. Stealing a landslide vote was virtually impossible without anarchy ensuing. It would be far too obvious.
Obama’s win is one of historical proportions for the African American community and our nation. But as I have stated before, Obama’s “soul contract” was to become a preacher. He gives hope and inspiration. But my psychic insights of his personal character still stand, he does not have the solutions to pull America out of our economic crisis nor deal with the wars that G.W. Bush created. I believe that this presidency was meant to belong to Hillary, and because he somehow stepped into her predestined role, Obama will not be allowed to do the full term as the 44th president. At this point the inauguration on Jan 20th, 2009 is even in question. As my readers know, I have never seen Obama as president in my future visions. I predicted assassination attempts early on, if Hillary was replaced by Obama. Which happened. And now the plots are coming into fruition, 2 plots foiled and Obama already has more threats than any other of his predecessors. His victory speech had to be delivered behind two-inch thick walls of bullet proof glass!!! See the photo: LINK 2 This is a first in our nation’s history.
Something big is brewing! Watch Colin Powell’s “Big Slip” he’s letting us in on the Government secret…a coming crisis VIDEO What is being planned for the week of January 21st during the first days of the new presidency?
As per my Oct 2008 BLOG Predictions
With every fiber of my being, I know that there is a major event looming.
Here are the updated predictions:
A) A US government plot which will be 911-like, with Bush claiming a state of emergency thus suspending and postponing the inauguration and self imposing his dictatorship, before Obama is sworn in.
B) An assassination
C) The stock market collapse
D) All of the above.
A major event will be the catalyst for our government to instate military personnel for martial law. The ball is in motion, I clearly see that riots are already expected surrounding the elections. I have predicted Martial Law being enforced in the US since 2002 now look at the PROOF that it’s coming: LINK VIDEO Military
OBAMA: Unfortunately for Obama, there is an assassination plot coming from high up within our own government. A covert plan made to look like something else, along with a JFK style cover up. Most likely the murder would be pinned on a white supremist.
OVERVIEW: The Shadow Government was forced into allowing Obama to win the election because they couldn’t steal the election to make it believable this year. Why, because the people had joined together and this landslide vote was revolutionary. But I believe that this is only an appeasement, the Shadow Government will not stand for a REAL maverick in office.
So many people have email me to ask me about my psychic insight into the formation of a Shadow Government, so here are two important articles to back up my visions. Proof of existence: BBC News LINK | Washington Post LINK
In Love, Light, & Peace,
Michelle Whitedove
Queen | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Senora Land, I am also African American, and I feel exactly as you do. I felt something was missing about Obama. He looked good and sounded good, but I always felt that there was something missing about him. M. Lee saw a foggy mist around him. I am glad to know that it is not just me who has had these feelings, and there is a spiritual community who understand these feelings. It’s been hard to share this information with others, especially fellow African Americans. Nevertheless, I still pray for Obama and his family. To be under the threat of constant assassination is not something I would want for anybody.
On another note, I am very concerned about what Elizabeth is seeing for the end of the year. Her predictions seem to fall in line with other predictions from very reputable psychics and other informational sources that are predicting major global turmoil.
We, as a spiritual community, will need to pull together and call on each other as we experience these momentous earth changes. We are going through such an uncertain, unstable period right now, and we will need a lot of strength to get through whatever is coming.
God bless you all.
jaded | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
while I was medating I asked my inner self to reveal if Obama was good or bad. I got a picture of an older white guy with an earing….it was a little odd. Later that evening I was watching the news and saw Bill Ayres the domestic terrorist talking he was wearing the same earing I saw in my dream, it was then the picture in my mind made the connetion with Obama.
beaujo | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
I posted on this site a couple of weeks ago and agree with Elizabeth and Michelle Whitedove. In my previous post I mentioned two dreams that I have had showing Obama being assassinated. I do not believe he will take office or if he does, he will not stay in office for any length of time. In my dream Lincoln was shown along with the assassination message. I don’t think it is by accident that Obama is mentioning Lincoln almost daily. Obama is modeling his cabinet after the way Lincoln filled his cabinet in many respects.
I, too, see much darkness and despair in the days ahead, and I see riots and martial law, which would be a result of an Obama assassination. In my dream, the assassin was dark skinned, and I agree that there could be a cover-up. If you watch Obama in his interviews, he seems very tired and troubled. He now knows the burden he is carrying and is overwhelmed with what lies ahead. I believe that he now has regrets about being elected.
In my dreams, Hillary was standing prominently in the background and is there to “pick up the pieces” in the midst of the darkness. The nation will come to understand the power and strength that Hillary possesses. She will be revered for the leadership she will show. For these reasons, her appointment as Secretary of State fits with my dreams.
I see all of this taking place between now and April. I agree that December, January and April are critical times for our country. I feel that we have some very difficult times ahead and I could easily see that the inauguration could be delayed and Bush may have to stay in office beyond Jan 20th. I also do not see Joe Biden serving as President for any length of time if something happens to Obama.
I am not well versed in astrology as to when events are coming together, but I totally agree that there are some cataclysmic events ahead and the tough times are just beginning. Logical solutions that have worked in the past will no longer be applicable. Laws will have to altered or pushed aside to deal with the crisis situations. The upheaval continues for at least the next 4 years, but prayers and spirituality will play an important role in our getting through the tough times.
Pat | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
It sounds like we are all going to have to hang on tight. It looks like we are going for a long ride. I pray for the destiny of our country.
Wow! | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
Another African-American over here and I don’t see Obama’s actions lining up with his words. He should have been a preacher or an actor because he has bamboozled America. He’s calling for transparency from anyone who wants to work with him, but the same rules don’t apply to his transparency. He doesn’t show us anything that could give us a real clue as to how he thinks and who he is. College records locked, birth certificate locked, Annenberg papers locked until recently, his wife’s thesis first locked and then opened after the media hoop-la, only writing 1 article as editor of the Harvard Law Review, how did he pay for college is locked too - but he says he had student loans of which there is no record.
If this were a man I was dating, my friends would caution me about getting too close to him. They would say that he’s hiding something and it’s not good whatever it is. They would say that if I were to marry him, I would probably be kept under tight restraint because he operates with a double-standard.
They would say that his sense of entitlement makes him heartless to the point where he doesn’t even feel like he’s doing any harm by requiring me to be a certain way without questioning him. They would say it could lead to abuse based on his current behavior. They would say that they can see why I like him because he’s so “nice” and has a good job, and hangs around the ‘right’ people. They would challenge me to look deeper and not be swept up by his ’sweet-talk.’ See the man behind the mask, they would say.
Thank God I have wonderful friends! Problem is, that most of them are not taking their own advice when it comes to Obama. They’re as caught up in the illusion as CNN and MSNBC.
Now I just try to keep informed and read all sides and point of views regarding the news.
Whatever our country is about to go through with Obama, we obviously HAVE to go through it. I’m sure that in the long-run we will have learned many valuable lessons. It’s our time to grow. And growing sometimes hurts…
kim | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
Obama and Oprah Obama and Oprah.
what she want from him?what he want from her?
Chie | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
My vibes tell me, that everything will work out just fine. Many may be just picking up negative vibration due to the extraordinary level of enigmatic energy surrounding such a powerful election. You can relax. We may have some financial issues resulting in tremendous economic loss to families, businesses and local governments; however, our society is witnessing a major paradigm shift (spiritually, economically and politically). We can take a lesson from how well the candidates have come together to work on a better future for the collective good. Now, it is up to each one of us in our capacity to envision Divine Consciousness and to project goodness for not only America, but world society.
Some people may have seen John McCain’s Republican acceptance speech. You know the one where, he says, “Fight with me, fight with me! That’s what we as spiritually enlighten people must do now. Our fight is to project harmlessness, forgiveness and love so brightly that each of us becomes beacons of light, which lights the souls and spirit of others. If we are able to do so, we can change what seems to be the obvious (negative predictions and astrological forecasts). Both predictions and forecasts are mere weather reports, that can be alter based on our collective free will.
What are the benefits of our creative deterministic will? Ah, goodness for Earth and its dwellers. So, I ask each psychic, citizen, parent, and lover will you fight with me? Fight with me to change negative psychic weather reports. Fight with me to create a bold new future in spite of the darkness that could wait for us? Fight with me for joyous prosperity and love! Our future is worth the fight! The weapons that we fight with are prayers for tranquility, universal love, positive thoughts and acts of emotional healing.
pdx | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
I’m not psychic and I find it interesting to contrast the undercurrent psychics are picking up while most of the liberals are feeling relieved, happy, victorious. These wide differences and swings remind me of our current stock market. Erratic, foggy, extreme. Floating on the surface is not the same experience of diving deeper.
malibu | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
It is even more interesting to notice the difference between true psychics, clairsentients and mundane astrologers of the liberal bent. For years the internet astrologers have belittled, insulted, demeaned, castigated GW Bush mercilessly, usually with hateful diatribes. I am no GWB fan but a certain respect is due to the president. Obama should be afforded that respect, IF HE IS LEGITIMATE. However many astrologers of the far left inclination have manipulated the astrology in order to present Obama in the best possible light while obscuring and minimalizing interpretations on his opponents. Terribly transparent. Out of order with universal law, and liable to incur karma in reverse. These very same propagandists will end up burying their heads in the sand the 1st time Obama proves himself inaedequate, or in tangible support of the power brokers who placed him where he is. In the meantime if Clinto needs to turn over documents relative to the Clinton library for Hillary to be considered for SOS ( which she should in no way accept ) then Obama needs to release ALL of his sealed records. There is no excuse any longer for the truth to be hidden. I believe that there isn’t a call from the left for this to happen simply because they are afraid of the truth. Intuitively they know inside that he is hiding something.
Erica | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
Please forgive me if I sound judgemental but at no other time in the history of the world have human beings been so close to the other worlds. The reason why so many “good” psychics are NOT picking up on messages like they might have done in the past is that, the channels have been modified…
The old way of receiving messages no longer applies and I urge you to go within and meditate on being shown the “NEW” way openning up for us channels to be able to receive information, unfortunately you will continue to make predictions that will not pan out in the way you state them. That is indeed MY prediction. It is now necessary to enter into a new vortex, for the old one is just that “old”… not bad but “old”.
What we call the future has never been as “BLANK” as it is now. We have been given a new power to actually create what we as the human race wish to have happen and instead of forecasting things that are negative in nature, I would suggest that you look within you own lives PSYCHICS…yes I am speaking to you who call yourselves “visionaries”…see the imbalance, because I KNOW you are experiencing major imbalances in your own lives as this is written, and that is linked to why your predictions have not come to pass as you say. There is a new way, it is not like the old, it is absolutely different and you will only find it by going in and NOT stating predictions until you make the realization I’m speaking of.
Again this is not meant as a criticism, only what I’ve experienced myself in the last year and what I’ve been shown by the Lords of the Akashic records. Regardless of who won the election, let’s all contribute positive thoughts, for positive outcomes, afterall whatever happens on the larger scale will greatly affect us on an individual level. Remember 2012 is upon us and this is an opportunity. Leave the old way of doing and thinking behind. Take time to embrace your shadow selves, to love yourselves and in that way you will be able to channel the light of the new dimemsions. What you are channeling no longer pertains to the level we have entered.
Sending all of you the light of the NEW EARTH..
Much Love,
EV
pal3 | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
“ELIZABETH, the December 5th date was in a reply to one of your earlier ELECTION UPDATES I have known for sometime that on or around this date an impact would be made on this country….”
In regards to Joyce’s above predictions…
I am not sure if y’all know this but there are numerous lawsuits against Obama, requesting him to provide the orignal documents of his Birth Certificate. People are speculating that he was actually born in Kenya and the Certificate of Live Birth posted on his website is a forgery. Obama has refused to provide his orginal birth certificate. The media isn’t reporting this. Below is one of many lawsuits that has gone to the Supreme Court. I think Obama isn’t going to be murdered. I think people are predicting this because they see Obama not being inaugurated and therefore assumed that the only possible way that this could happen is for Obama to be assassinated. Him being disqualified will definately lead to riots.
From Obamacrimes.com -
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States filed a Writ of Certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on October 30, 2008, requesting review of the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Judge Surrick’s Dismissal of Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit against Barack H. Obama, Jr., the DNC and the other co-Defendants. Accordingly, the U. S. Supreme Court has set dates in which Barack Obama, the DNC and all co-Defendants are to respond to the Writ, which is on or before December 1, 2008.
Mr. Berg remarked today, “I look forward to receiving Defendant Obama’s response to the Writ and am hopeful the U. S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama. I believe Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”
Mr. Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Docket # 08-cv-4083 for lack of standing. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari for review of the case and an injunction to stay the election pending review. Justice Souter denied the injunction. It is expected that the Court will decide whether or not to review Berg v. Obama after the Defendants file their response, and Mr. Berg has replied to the Defendant’s response.
The Defendants’ response is due by December 1st and Mr. Berg’s reply will be submitted thereafter
futurist | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
If Hillary becomes the Secretary of State, she will be next in the order for Presidental succession in the event the President, the VP, the House Speaker and the President Pro Tem (Senate) can’t/won’t assume Presidental duties. Maybe this is how she can meet her true destiny and become the future President.
Pat | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
Here’s another one ….
http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html
I hope you can open it.
I wonder if the assissination that some are seeing is really the death of his political career and not necessarily his life.
sara | Nov 18, 2008 | Reply
I am so glad others have but into words exactly what I have felt . “Foggy mist” around Obama, that’s exactly right. Everyone tells me I should love him but there’s something so wrong about him. It’s like something is missing from him somehow. I do not think he is in any danger from assassination. I think we’re the ones in danger. It’s a feeling so strong, I can barely sleep when it takes hold.
I have this increasingly strong urge to shout at the top of my lungs, in the middle of the street, “DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!”
Grouch | Nov 19, 2008 | Reply
“I, too, see much darkness and despair in the days ahead, and I see riots and martial law…”
Riots and martial law will be the result of an Obama presidency, is my feeling. We can look forward to four years of reckless “leadership” in an economy circling the toilet. Obama is a malignant narcissist. Those who are charmed by him are projecting hopes and wishes for something that will never materialize. So just remember, dreams of death don’t have to be literal.. His CHARACTER might be off-ed because it’s an intangible persona that shapeshifts with whatever trend/idea/group he is talking with. Lots of people will spend the next two years waking up from disillusionment and then taking it out on others.
“However many astrologers of the far left inclination have manipulated the astrology in order to present Obama in the best possible light while obscuring and minimalizing interpretations on his opponents.”
Yes, I agree. I have spoken with many astrologers and come away feeling like they are lunies and flakes, biased as equally as the ones they rail against. Plus, they are working with a date and place of birth that might not be correct. Who knows where or when Obama was really born? They can’t base their certain predictions on quicksand, yet, they gleefully do. I would not trust anyone who falls for Obama to predict my future or read my chart. And yes, I find astrology helpful, but delusional bents are hardly helpful in prognosticating.
Chiron | Nov 19, 2008 | Reply
No ‘channels” have been modified. The Akashic records are able to be reached in the same way as those enlightened enough to reach them in the past have always been able able to reach them. But we exist in and betwixt parallel universes where one stream of reality intertwines with another. The reason that ‘bad’ events occur is because the human race as a collective have not reached a point of collective consciousness where collective free will can be directed towards positive soul development. “Bad” things will continue to happen, probably on a massive scale, to drive the collective consciousness to that point. Things are unfolding as they were meant to. GWB was put into place because he was meant to be there. Obama is meant to be there, if only for an instance, to play the part meant for them to drive events forward. “bad” events are not necessairily “bad”, but are passages. Until there is a preponderance of the collective that can alter the passages through acts of love, then other forces will intervene. Astrology indicates the energies in play but doesn’t “fate” the outcome. Psychics pick up on those energies and those potential ‘threads’. I can tell you when many intuitives pick up on similar visions then that should resonate as early warning indicators. We are not yet in an age where humans can project an aura of peace and understanding. Sadly there is much darkness yet ahead that we are meant to traverse first.
jaded | Nov 19, 2008 | Reply
I’m still waiting for Obama to go back to Hawaii and bury the dead grandmother he loved so much. It was very convenient for him to make that announcment just the day before the election and did you see him pull out the hanky to wipe his eyes(no tears). Who the hell carries a hanky in this day and age…what a phony!
pdx | Nov 19, 2008 | Reply
From a non psychic pov I would tend to agree that the channels have not changed radically. That is because the nature of the collective unconsciousness has not changed. But there have been times that the collective consciousness and unconsciousness have been very different - even at odds.
Just as an example (not a parallel necessarily) was Nazi Germany where the collective consciousness was one of hope and regaining pride in the German culture and nation while the unconsciousness was much different - issues were not resolved.
During GW Bush’s reign the collective became very aware of the dark deeds of the government and now we collectively think we can ‘change’ that (easily) and regain pride in our culture and nation. But, again, the issues are not resolved simply by electing a figurehead.
For example, the greed exhibited by wall street is not confined there. Most Americans depend on credit cards and mortgages and are way over leveraged in every way as a form of greed so that we can have stuff. Some have hugely abused credit. So it is systemic. Are we collectively aware of that?
If we collectively think we have ’solved’ racism then we are collectively unaware that we have greatly depended on sexism to give ourselves that (false) comfort. Women have become the new unconscious fall guy.
Chiron | Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
Breaking News.
Today, the United States Supreme Court scheduled the case - Leo C. Donofrio v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey - US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407 - for a conference of the nine Justices.
If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College.
The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the “national election” pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.
Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court - was denied - and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.
Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.
On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be “DISTRIBUTED for Conference”.
Background on “The Justices Conference” is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:
“No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as “doorkeeper,” sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door…
Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…
The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.
Well this could get interesting.
jaded | Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
I don’t think so Obama has too much power now, this will get squashed like everything else.
It’s gonna take more than words to stop him.
Chiron | Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
the court has opposed presidents before and enforced their judgements. It only takes 4 justices to send this to conference.
angel | Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
Here’s a similar pridiction I found that might interest everyone…………..
Will there be a total economic collapse?
Yes. 2009 will be a “year of transformation.” The keyword “monumental” shows up as how the future will view our current situation. Time Monks describe this as an “epic situation”
How to prepare for what’s coming?
The Time Monks say:
Have a plan in place to be as independent of the institutions of society as you can possibly get. Prepare for a situation in which you will have no water, food, electricity or heat. Have clothing for all seasons and EXTRA MEDICINE. Possibility of oil going up to $500 a barrel, also possible massive deflation from nobody buying anything. This is the kind of thing where the other nations on the planet will be so scared of whats going to happen in the U.S. that they will begin preparing, fearing that the U.S. will go crazy. This includes mobilizing military.
Try not to panic, we have a couple of weeks. You can not store enough to get you by indefinitely. A situation my arise in which you may need to move or be relocated. Time Monks do not advocate bank runs because money may become useless. Says longer term data “implies money is less intense part of society than it is now.”
Liz | Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
Something wicked this way comes!
DJ Brandal | Nov 21, 2008 | Reply
Erica
Thank you for your insight and encouraging words posted Nov 18. Yes, this new reality is inward. Meditation is that door…the possible made real! May we all Trust like we’ve never before.
chiron | Nov 21, 2008 | Reply
And I repeat what I stated on the 19th. Meditation is a path. However, you only need to drive on a metropolitan freeway to understand that the greater populace doesn’t care to look inward or practice chanting Nam Myōhō Renge Kyō. Collective prayer will help.
However I firmly believe that collective decisions that set us on this path were made long ago. We are meant to traverse through the darkness only to reach the light. What remains to be seen is how much darkness and how long will it last?
D Thompson | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
WorldNet Daily November 21, 2008
Obama’s state secret: His birth certificate!
Joseph Farah
Posted:
1:00 am Eastern
© 2008
So much for those pledges of “open government.”
So much for those promises of “change.”
So much for his upcoming oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.
Barack Hussein Obama is still refusing to disclose to the American public something as innocent and as basic as his full, undoctored birth certificate to establish beyond any shadow of a doubt – and that doubt is growing daily – that he is a natural-born American citizen.
Ironically, now that the election is over, the pressure is building. A few bold members of Congress are getting interested in demanding hearings on the issue. The lawsuits are increasing. More pundits and activists are beginning to mobilize.
I, too, am raising the stakes.
Beginning today, I am personally sponsoring a petition campaign right here at this Internet news source, to all controlling legal authorities to determine Barack Obama’s eligibility for the presidency under Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution and to use all of their persuasive powers to make this information freely available to the rulers of this country – we the people.
I also pledge that this news organization will continue to pursue its own independent investigation as aggressively as it possibly can.
To date, here is what we have done:
Dispatched senior staff reporter Jerome Corsi twice to Hawaii to investigate the matter, including an appeal to the governor.
Hired a battery of private investigators in Hawaii to check every hospital for birth records – to no avail.
Sent Corsi to Kenya where he talked with some of Obama’s relatives who clearly recall the birth taking place in Mombasa. (While there, Corsi was detained by Kenyan officials and a press conference he had scheduled was canceled at the last minute at the order of Prime Minister Raila Odinga, who has since made clear he has expectations of payback from soon-to-be President Obama.)
I tell you all this because despite the shroud of secrecy over the birth certificate issue, there are some organizations out there insisting it is all a tempest in a teapot – that the issue is settled, that the birth certificate has been released, that Obama has been determined to be eligible by some mystery authority.
One such organization, Factcheck.org, characterizes any who question its assertion that this matter is settled as conspiracy mongers. But, as for me, when it comes to matters as important as the Constitution of the United States, I do not accept the opinion of armchair researchers. Nobody – not one news organization in the world – has devoted more resources to investigating this matter than has WND.
I hope you will now join me in this fight for truth, justice and the American way by signing the petition. Help me spread the word. Let’s turn up the heat. Send this column and the petition far and wide. Share it with your neighbors. Honor the Constitution. Save this country’s most vital institutions and its honor. Seek the truth. Demand accountability.
Time is running out.
The Electoral College is due to convene Dec. 15 – less than a month.
Barack Obama is to be sworn in as the next president Jan. 20 – less than two months from now.
Do you believe the American people have a right to know for certain their next president is constitutionally eligible for the job?
Without a chance to inspect that birth certificate for themselves, do you think we can ever be certain?
If the Constitution is not taken seriously as concerns the eligibility of the president, is it likely to be taken seriously in other matters?
If you don’t take responsibility and initiative on this issue, I am convinced no one else will.
Take your stand for accountability, truth, the rule of law and the Constitution.
Sign the petition now.
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81581
chiron | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
What world news should do is to sue Factcheck.org since the are representing the COLB as fact and actually they have no way of knowing. So it is not a fact, and that is not truth in advertising. They are breaking the law in saying so.
elsie | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
I went to a biblical Book of Revelation seminar in August and they predicted the end of times (7 years)will start this fall (now) with a world global financial collapse which btw happened on 9/16 - a jewish holiday and and the Antichrist would come in to power - I have never much beleived any of this but I am eerily spooked by Obama’s popularity - what is it about him that people seem almost under a spell - when I saw people all over the world rejoicing and celebrating when he won - I couldn’t help but think about this presetnation. There is something about him that I don’t feel right about either - I too think a assasination would be horrible but I also knew that there was no way out of this regardless of who won - there seems to be something brewing that is predestined. I am freaked out about it…Bush would not stay in office - Biden would go into office so all those Bush theories are ridiculous - I think he wants out - who could blame him.
Dave | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Wow!.. so much negative predictions and negative energy is polluting this page and our universe. For those that believe our thoughts can create the future, let’s focus on positive thoughts and positive prayers for ourselves, our loved ones, our country, our world and our future. May we with the help of God make tomorrow a brighter day than today.
Sebastian | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Dave, don’t you get it?
“so much negative predictions ans negative energy…” ???
Don’t you care about our country?
We are fighting evil here! Obama is dangerous!
We don’t want him, he must be exposed for who he really is. We cannot stick our heads in the sand and hope for the best, and be naive about this! So if you want to stay ‘positive’ and smile towards the future, then please do stick your head in the sand and pretend things are ok.
They are not tho! and will get worse if we allow this to continue. He must be brought down, the havock as a result will be short and minor in comparison to the long term consequences with him as president! I’ll go to the grave with this belief! He is not a good man!! I don’t want to see this world go under like atlantis and lemuria did! We are at the breaking point, he must go, or else we all will!!
See it as negative if you will, but I guess we’ll find out shortly regardless. And I will rise above the ‘I told you so’ part, but it is about time that the people on this planet learned these lessons.
“Those who fail to learn from the past, are condemned to repeat them”
Chiron | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Dave & Sebastian neither of your points are salient. The questions should be ‘Has he lied?’, ‘Is he eligible?’, ‘Who falsified the online certificate?’, ‘Why does Obama’s web site NOW admit to ‘once’ holding dual citizenship?’ There are way too many unanswered questions for comfort or positive thoughts. Noted psychic’s, including Elizabeth have been saying that there is something askew here since January or longer. My own read of Obama’s birth chart indicates possible duplicity and a dark side that has been purposefully obscured. Sometimes when you hear the cries of “wolf” it means watch out, there is a wolf!
Chiron | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Also of interest:
About twelve minutes into a Detroit radio station’s interview with Kenyan ambassador Peter Ogego, he is asked whether or not monuments will be erected in honor of Obama’s elevation to the United States presidency.
Ogego responds that a monument will be erected at Obama’s birthplace in Kenya, which is already a site of pilgramage: “His birthplace is already an attraction…it’s already well known.”
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother has also asserted that he was born in Kenya, not the United States. The Constitution bars those born outside of US territory from becoming President.
Chiron | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Finally one more thought:
“The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.”
-Samuel Adams
Pat | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
But what can we do? I’ve signed a few different petitions already. I just feel this is so much bigger than me.
What I don’t understand is why the MSM isn’t discussing these law suits. I guess I understand why the biased media isn’t discussing it, but what about FOX and Drudge. I find it odd that nothing is being said.
Check out the link below. It’s a lot of reading but interesting.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/WRIT-OF-MANDATE.pdf
jaded | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
The reason why no one is talking about it is because ALL media has been pain off, only radio cannot be tainted because they follow different rules, Obama camp has been trying to lock that down too.
EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN SO THAT NOTHING BAD ABOUT OBAMA WOULD BE DISCUSSED. SOMETIMES ON FOX THEY HAVE A PANEL TO DISCUSS SOMETHINE NEGATIVE, 3 OBAMA CAMP 1 REPUBLICIAN JUST TO SHOW BALANCE. BASICALLY WE ARE BEING HAD.
I FEEL STRONGLY OBAMA HAS TIES TO THE STOCK MARKET AND THEY ARE DILEBRATELY MINUPLATING IT AS THEY PLEASE…MIKE HUCKBEE SAID IT ON FOX ONE DAY BUT NOBODY IN THE MEDIA PICKED IT UP. WARREN BUFFET CLAIMS HE LOST A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THE STOCK MARKET….BUT I BET YOU ANYTHING THEY TIPPED HIM OFF BEFORE THEY MESSED UP THE MARKET…THAT’S WHY HE’S SUCH A BIG OBAMA SUPPORTER.
I really hate what’s happening.
Pat | Nov 22, 2008 | Reply
Do you think it’s Soros = Economic Terrorism?
It’s interesting how the last 1/2 hour of the day the stock market rallies.
Briana | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Wow Ms. Joyce, I am shocked at the darkness and negativity you’ve attracted to your website. Your predictions have always been “on the negative side” but this time you’ve gone too far. Count me out as a fan to your site. It has now become a breeding place for racists and low lifes.
ejoyce | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Why is it that when someone tries to present either alternate thinking or overlooked facts, they are accused of being negative or wrong? All you New Agers who hide your head in the sand and are looking for a savior instead of taking responsibility for yourselves have no practical common sense. At this time we have a right to free speech and this site tries to exercise that right - for the most part.
We all are in for some troubled times, that is certain. Heads up - you New Agers, Obama is not a savior and we are all in this together. Those you spit on, refuse to listen to, and call “negative” now will be the ones you are looking at to pull you out of the quicksand down the road! That’s for sure.
This is My country and this is Your country. Wake up! Before it’s way, way too late, and it just may be.
pal3 | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Briana - all we ask is for Obama to show his vault birth certificate. Is that too much to ask?
Chiron | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
So Briana you were a fan and attractive to the web site despite it being “on the negative side”
until there are predictions posted on Obama?
Nonsense. The problem with the left, and this is coming from a gay Democrat, is that they have sunk to the level of the far right with this past election. Opposition and alternate points of view are being disparaged, web sites are hacked, posters are banned, names are called, and on and on. There is danger here. Any disagreement with the agenda is branded racist. What an evil bellweather that is in an of itself. There are racists in this country, but to brand all those who question and challenge racists is patently a racist tactic in an of itself. I use astrology as a guide. The astrology indicates difficulties, deceptions, and deep catalytic change ahead that will not be pleasant. There is no race baiting in astrology, there is race baiting in tactics that attempt to silence all opposition using race as a false flag. Several posters here have who have contributed have been black. You obviously discounted those comments using the same disigenuous political bias as those who minimize legitimate questions elsewhere. Pal is correct. Have him pony up the documents and all this goes away. What are you afraid of? The TRUTH?
Isis | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Wow!!! I have followed this blog for a little while but only find the need to comment now.
Thank you for your predictions Ms. Joyce. I have had these feelings as well and I share these same uncertain feelings when it comes to Mr. Obama. Like many of the posters here, I see that he has many of the qualities of destructive political leadership.
Now is not the time to look for some kind of savior. Now is the time to question everything, and keep faith while preparing for tough times.
MaryLou | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
I concur with Elizabeth. “something wicked this way comes”………Prepare now!
jay | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
All of you guys are missing the point. It doesn’t matter if Obama has a genuine birth certificate. He’s not natural born and nothing can change that. His father had Kenyan citizenship and mother American. That means Obama’s sr’s citizenship status was transfered to jr and jr had split loyalties. That’s the end of the story. Go to this site and look for the Leo Donofreo case.lanlamphere.com. This site will answer all your questions.
USA | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
Briana,
This negative force is created by Obama, not by Elizabeth. One simple question is why it is so difficult for Obama to show his real birth certificate? It is a long article, but you will understand why so many people think something is nor right.
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/22/obamas_born_conspiracy_forged_images,_phony_photos,_and_felony_fraud.thtml
M. LEE - OAK PARK, IL. | Nov 23, 2008 | Reply
CALLERS on CHICAGO, “TALK RADIO STATIONS” are
asking the question, “WHY IS OBAMA CHOOSING A
CLINTON CABINET… OBAMA was the winner?”….
ELIZABETH, are some VOTERS starting to WAKE-UP and SEE …. WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN ALL THE TIME,
and have SHARED with us all?
SENDING LIGHT, LOVE AND PEACE…
GOD BLESS AMERICA
sc | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
I, and hope that all, will thank and keep praying for the Almighty’s presence always in in each one of our hearts, mind, and soul.
Liz | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
Preserve our Constitution, prepare for the worst, wake up your friends, be strong. We are Americans with common sense so please go and use it! Something wicked this way comes & it has been coming for a long time, now the bubble has bursted. If you look back in history many great empires that got TOO BIG TOO FAST have fallen. Maybe this is America’s turn. People have been far out of touch with the important things for far too long. Just turn on the TV and you will see it ALL. People have forgotten about the real things in life, instead all they have cared about are fake riches like buying expensive cars, homes, etc. that they can’t even afford. Kids are so out of touch and it’s because the parents don’t teach them right from wrong.
I am focusing on my family, friends and educating myself on our country’s history. I want to teach my kids that you don’t need material things to be happy. You need each other and LOVE.
God Bless you all!
Jean-Marie Rondeau | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
The TV preachers have been promising the coming of a Messiah and a just society. They are getting filthy rich, some of them doing this.
Look up Isaiah, the coming Messiah involves more government not less.
For this to happen successfully, a total collapse of the actual economic system is necessary.
For the transition to be less pain full, some one is needed to put in place solid basic new infrastructures.
It looks like that is what is in the works.
Jean-Marie Rondeau
jaded | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
I’m in agreement with one of the above poster’s who said this was Economic terrorisim. What better way to destroy the biggest power in the world. I think that Iran and the Chinese government are behind this plot. Obama is just their tool.
I would like to know why they are taking so long to appoint Hillary, she might blow the wistle.
I honestly don’t think the thing about his birth certificate is going to blow him out of office, the forces behind him would not allow this to happen as they have come too far, anyone standing in the way will be moved out of the way…I think it will only come to light
should he be assinated.
D Thompson | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
I’ve been thinking that Hillary feels very ambivalent about hooking her wagon to someone she knows is full of scandal–BUT, i feel she must be weighing the pros and cons of where she can be most effective—and I guess, hedging her bets whether or not he will not be exposed.
This whole thing is the most SURREAL situation…feels like a sci-fi movie.
Where is truth? What can you respect….or believe in? Everything is veiled, concealed and not what it seems. The media is acting like hypnotized pod people. They’ve put an imposter in office. Obama seems like a “front man”….there is a tribunal that stands behind him–I do not get that he has burning passions or beliefs. Other than his very practiced and smooth “persona”. it all feels artificial.
Isis | Nov 24, 2008 | Reply
D Thompson-
I agree. All of this is very surreal.
Land | Nov 25, 2008 | Reply
Carolyn: On the basis of what you just stated, since the Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is having a conference on December 5th regarding the allegations of Obama’s birth certificate if he’s a natural born United States citizen… you [we] should write Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas stating how much that we uphold our Constitution and that Obama is a fraud on everything he says. The address is: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas; United States Supreme Court; 1 First Street NE; Washington, D.C. 20543. The other Supreme Justices are: John Roberts, John Steven, Antonio Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Ginsburg, Stephen Bregar and Samuel Alto
Mac D. Olieria | Nov 30, 2008 | Reply
Obama will not be assassinated, he’ll be sworn in, and he’ll enact an agenda very similar to G.W.Bush’s, the difference being that he’ll encounter little or no resistance to new militant manuevers, because, nobody will question his motives. He’s not connected to the Oil Interests (he is, but percieved to be a maverick, which he’s not). He’ll continue to promote Zionist interests, as did GWB.
The same masters pull Obama’s strings as did Carter’s Fords, Reagan’s both Bushes…. it’s the same cabal that has been controlling the white house since JFK was brutally murdered.
It’s a group that seeks one world government, by central banksters & crank scientists.
Alex | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
It’s actually sad when i read this and find a lot of what you said was true. Although i look at this and agree, it’s kind of unnerving to know the things that i see when i sleep and when i am awake that others know also. I am glad to have paranormal traits, but it sucks seeing the inevitable. Ever since i saw Obama, i felt retort and confused. Back in Feb i knew he would win. In May i saw that sometime after his inauguration that he would be shot and killed. I know he is a puppet for a bigger operation. I know the civil War will occur shortly after that. Race against race, prosperity and growth will diminish. UN peace keepers will be in our country shooting our people to keep peace for a government that will require to be replaced. WW3 is inevitable, we are only at the tip of the iceberg. Prepare for food shortages, famine, and the biggest death toll in human history. Foretold to be about 2.5-3 billion. The rest of the plot is left to the ones who can open their minds and see what i have seen.
New poster | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
It is amazing to me after reading everything on this site that I already know the ending to this story. I do not know how it places out or for sure the exact players names (yet). however, I have been reading about this very thing happening since I was a young lady. If you want to know how it ends and you want to be on the winning side go to the book of “Revelations”. It is all spelled out for us there. I pray that God will have mercy on all our souls.