Early 2009 Predictions
By ejoyce on Nov 14, 2008 in Articles, New Predictions
Neptune brings us illusions, lies and deceit.
The outer planets – Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus and Pluto are major players in 2009. Pluto moves into Capricorn for a twenty eight-year stay in late 2008, affecting our financial structure as well as reorganizing our money, and the structure of major corporations. These outer planets also affect World events. In May we may find that we elected Barack Obama under an illusion because of false hopes and confusion.
Neptune also represents spirituality and faith and we can only hope that we get the best of the Neptune and Jupiter combination, while avoiding the less attractive energies this duo can bring in. The tendency of this historic election was wishful thinking, while tuning out reality. As great as this energy can be for creative and humanitarian efforts, it is one combo that urges maximum financial caution.
Keep a tight fist on your money!
The Stock Market has no money. It is empty! It has lived on false highs while being gauged and raped by the people who know exactly how to manipulate the market. At December 2008’s end, expect to see a sharp drop in the market, and it could fall below 66,000. Unless you’re independently wealthy, keep your donations in proportion to your income and don’t bend to the requests of relatives and friends. Use the Jupiter-Neptune energies to find an outlet for positive self-expression, possibly something that might benefit others. Tap into your creative energy, volunteer for a good cause, re-discover your inner spirituality, and inner faith. Join or facilitate a self-help group or begin a meditation circle.
There will be two more exact alignments with Saturn and Uranus in 2009, the first being November 2008 on election day. It’s a play in three acts. When restrictive Saturn meets up with unpredictable and electrifying Uranus, the challenge is to break free from restriction in the pursuit of change and independence, while still trying to manage the status quo. This alignment effects everything from business to politics, the collective consciousness, individual freedom, real estate, and health care, as well as medical breakthroughs.
On a personal level, it manifests profound changes in your life, as well as new beginnings or final endings. For many of us the focus will be on money matters, personal relationships, and your job or earning power. Others may experience the Saturn/Uranus opposition on an internal level that results in a higher form of thinking, awareness, that results in taking a new life direction or life-style. (Some of this could be due to medical reasons.) Be cautious because changes made under this influence are almost always irreversible.
The Crèche
Obama will be making many choices that most of the country will not be pleased with, including re-starting the draft. I also, strangely enough, see the banning of the Crèche (Manger Scene) in any public places, including the White House, Rockerfella Center and on the lawns of private homes, beginning next Holiday Season. Many of us may feel that our America is melting and disappearing.
On October 29th Saturn leaves the sign of Virgo and enters Libra, which will align with Pluto in Capricorn. This is “tough love” as both of these planets are in Cardinal Signs. This occurs two other times, again, a play in three acts, between October 2009 and August 2010. Frustration and an inability to control major forces of change are the characteristics of this transit. Usually the first “hit” is the most difficult, and the next two complete the process. Politically, this could be the beginning or re-establishing the draft, a decision to invade Iran, or problems caused by withdrawing our troops too soon from Iraq, which I believe will be one of Obama’s first efforts after he takes office in January 2009. January 30th and June 19th are the days to watch, or two weeks before. (The energy happens before the “hit” or action.)
After January 30th, and I believe February will be a heart breaking month, as we may learn that the $700 billion bail out failed, and there are no more funds left, finances and real estate will be the “hotspots,” and there could be an increasing demand from the corporations for government help, especially with the auto industry. The planetary lineup will impact people’s lives while encouraging a general desire to revamp and restructure their lives. We could consider this avoiding waste and growing through the evolutionary process. Again, sudden, emotional decisions are not the wiser choice because change associated with Pluto are irreversible.
Hillary Clinton
I am feeling major health issues for John McCain in December 2008, and the passing of Ted Kennedy by the end of January 2009. I also felt Hillary Clinton would be Secretary of State after she was passed over for the VP spot. Sarah Palin will run for the Senate in Alaska in September 2009, and wins. She may be a major contender with Hillary for the Presidential spot in 2012. (Remember — this 2008 election is a one term office only!)
One more thing — the weather disruptions begin on the East Coast in 2009. There may be more than enough snow, so much so that oil cannot be delivered to the private homes. In mid-February I feel the schools will be closed in many areas, and used as shelters for those who cannot heat their homes.
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RD | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
I SINCERELY HOPE you’re wrong on many of these predictions, Especially the banning of the creche, Even in private places. NO, I’m not a right-wing religious fanatic, But if so, He would go TOO FAR in suppressing religious liberty. I take a more libertarian approach on that issue. I also think if he reinstated the draft, He would be a REAL big letdown since LBJ, Around the time I was born. Yet, ONLY time will tell…….
Pat | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
I was really hoping we would hear that Obama would never take office. I’m still hoping something comes of his requirement to come up with his birth certificate by December 1. He has gotten away with everything else, so I guess he’ll get away with this too.
Would the draft be for a war or for Obama’s “brown shirt” security force?
indie | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
Didn’t Obama indicate during the Presidential campaign that women, along with men, should face the draft? Many voters did not know this.
malibu | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
Interesting predictions. I am getting pretty weary of listening to the far left wing of the new agists hyperventilating over the ’spiritual’ awakening that Obama will bring as POTUS. These gumbies are freaks. First they bad mouth Bush for eight years and call him every name in the book, discounting some of the good he has donne and exacerbating the not so good. Then they back stab Hillary Clinton and sabotage her candidacy. Of course they minimize any criticism of Obama and waylay any real investifgation into his background. Now he is the light fandango! The pure spirit who we must all adore and they don’t want to hear one negative thing about him. excuse me while I puke. He is a poltician. He breathes, eats and shits like the rest of us. He will err, make mistakes and take his lumps. And judging from the real psychics like Ms. Joyce, Ms. Whitetail, etc he won’t be so loved and adored soon. Simply because he is no better than the rest. Notice that creche rhymes with wretch and I expect more of the same.
SC | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
Elizabeth,
Will Barack H. Obama be sworn in and inaugurated as President of the USA on Jan. 20, 2009?
Dave | Nov 14, 2008 | Reply
Why are physic predictions always bad news? Will any good happen in 2009?
D Thompson | Nov 15, 2008 | Reply
This continues to percolate….another filing on Obama eligibility.
(Worldnet Daily)
‘Constitutional crisis’ looming over Obama’s birth location
Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see ‘usurper’ in Oval Office
November 14, 2008
8:40 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama’s status as a “natural-born citizen,” a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama’s birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn’t ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
The governor’s office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii?
Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has named two different Hawaii hospitals where Obama could have been born, while a video posted on YouTube features Obama’s Kenyan grandmother Sarah claiming to have witnessed Obama’s birth in Kenya.
The California action was filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation on behalf of Alan Keyes, the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, along with Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson, both California electors.
“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal,” the action challenges.
The petition is a request for the Superior Court of California in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring Secretary of State Debra Bowen “from both certifying to the governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.”
It continues with a request for a writ barring California’s electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof is produced.
An Obama spokesperson interviewed by WND described such lawsuits as “garbage.”
The popular vote Nov. 4 favored Obama over Sen. John McCain by several percentage points. But because of the distribution of the votes, Obama is projected to take the Electoral College vote, when it is held in December, by a 2-to-1 margin.
Named as defendants in the action are Bowen, Obama, vice president elect Joe Biden and the long list of California party electors.
Citing the constitutional requirement that a president be a “natural born” citizen, the case discusses other state and federal court cases regarding “aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President,” the case said.
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“There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process,” the complaint said, when in fact the only documentation currently required is a signed statement from the candidate attesting to those qualifications.
“Since [the Secretary of State] has, as its core, the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States of America is received by her,” the document said.
“This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.
“To this date, in this regard, SOS has not carried out that fundamental duty.”
The case said a simple attestation from the candidate or his party isn’t sufficient.
“Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States.”
Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party candidate Larry Holmes was removed from the ballot.
The “certificate of live birth” posted by the Obama campaign cannot be viewed as authoritative, the case alleges.
“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,” the document said. “The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.”
The case also raises the circumstances of Obama’s time during his youth in Indonesia, where he was listed as having Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, raising the possibility of Obama’s mother having given up his U.S. citizenship.
Any subsequent U.S. citizenship then, the case claims, would be “naturalized,” not “natural-born.”
“Based on all of the above, it is the duty of the SOS to obtain proper documentation of Senator Obama’s citizenship to confirm his eligibility for the office or the President of the United States,” the case said.
Just this week, WND has reported on more than half a dozen other legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding Obama’s decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status.
Among the states where cases are being tracked are Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Hawaii, and there were reports of other cases being developed in Utah, Wyoming, Florida, New York, North Carolina, Texas, California and Virginia.
Chiron | Nov 15, 2008 | Reply
Well they need to resolve it or the next four years you will hear that the government is illegitimate. There will be law suit after lawsuit filed, based on that illegitimacy and disputing the legality of anything he signs. It looks to be a giant mess.
D Thompson | Nov 16, 2008 | Reply
“Chicago Machine”
Self | 11/16/08 | Cindy of Nashville
Posted on November 16, 2008 7:10:12 AM EST by Cindy of Nashville
“Criminal Chicago Machine” has filled the state with UAW,”acorn cheats”, lawyers & other thugs, spending millions for adds and “encouragement” to elect “their choice” in Georgia. Goons from the north are Intimidating and threatening too.
They stole the election in OHIO. With the help of “friends” in state gov’t, and got away with it. “OBAMA’S-CHICAGO” TAKE-OVER MUST BE STOPPED! They are stealing the Senate election in Minnesota RIGHT NOW Every states right. Every individual right. Is at risk.
Now they intend to control the results of Georgia’s election process. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS MUST COME TOGETHER AND FIGHT It doesn’t matter at all what party you run with. Beside a filibuster free hand for TOTAL CONTROL; the liberal agenda and mass corruption, sure to come with their absolute power, will allow them to strengthen themselves formidably, DEEP IN EVERY STATE! OUR REPS WON’T MEAN SQUAT !
Everybody is watching. GEORGIA IS THE ONLY HOPE this country’s got! FIND WAYS TO DEFEND THE STATE OF GEORGIA, and the USA. Stand for Georgia’s right to elect it’s own people, without the help of Chicago. Communicate! Encourage everyone to fight this assault and fraud from the north.
AMERICA NEEDS YOU! Ask everyone to ASK EVERY ONE to keep a close eye, call on friends, and help with money if you can. AND to VOTE AGAINST their total control.
Email this to every one, and more. ACT NOW !!
D Thompson | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Where’s the birth certificate?
Joseph Farah
November 17, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
© 2008
Incredibly, we are just nine weeks away from inaugurating the next president of the United States and, millions of Americans, still have citizenship eligibility questions that have never been addressed by Barack Obama and his entourage.
All that Barack Obama would have to do to put this issue to rest is release his complete birth certificate, revealing where he was born and who were his parents.
It seems a simple thing.
Personally, I doubt the Democratic Party would be so stupid as to run an ineligible candidate for president of the United States. I doubt Hillary Clinton would have accepted defeat at the hands of a candidate ineligible for the job.
So, it would seem Obama is simply thumbing his nose at the Constitution and the concerns of millions of American people. After all, he has made it clear the Constitution doesn’t mean what it says anyway. It’s all a matter of opinion.
Maybe his intransigence on this seemingly ridiculous matter is just his way of showing he will, as president, consider himself above the Constitution. I don’t know any other way to interpret his behavior, do you?
Until last week, no one in the Obama camp would even comment on the controversy surrounding his complete birth certificate, which has never been released publicly. That changed after much hounding by WND staffers who managed to get one official Obama representative to proclaim – anonymously, I might add – that seven lawsuits filed by citizens trying to secure the birth certificate are “pure garbage.”
Obama’s record of non-cooperation and secrecy has now resulted in conspiracy theories that will plague him throughout his administration if he doesn’t address them now with utter transparence. Do I expect him to do so? No, I don’t.
He not only thinks those lawsuits are “garbage.” Evidently, that’s also what he thinks of the people who truly believe the Constitution means what it says and those who believe there ought to be some controlling legal authority determining Obama’s eligibility for the highest office in the land before he is sworn in Jan. 20.
Count me among those who really want to see that birth certificate now.
Imagine the level of secrecy we can expect from an Obama administration that guards his birth certificate with such tenacity.
I’m calling on Barack Obama today to release the entire birth certificate. And just so there is no mistake about what I am calling for, I want the part of the birth certificate that shows which hospital he was born in and who his parents were. That is the only way to establish if he is truly a U.S. citizen. Further, I am asking as a journalist and pundit that if there is any government agency or government official anywhere on the planet who has inspected the birth certificate and can provide those details to the American people, the time to do so is now.
I’m also calling on all my colleagues, from coast to coast and around the world, not to let this matter drop. Apparently it is a point of real sensitivity with Obama people. Good. Let’s rub it in. Let’s demand he produce the birth certificate at every turn – at every press conference, at every appearance, on every talk show.
Could anything be more important than enforcing the requirements of our Constitution?
This is hardly a laughing matter. The longer this soap opera drags on, the more suspicions it will raise – the less credibility our electoral system will have, the more many people will believe the whole political system is rigged.
Who does that benefit?
I honestly can’t imagine.
What possible motivation could Obama have for not producing this simple, innocuous document that every citizen must produce to get a passport, driver’s license or Social Security card?
Are you curious?
So am I?
Where’s the birth certificate, Sen. Obama?
jaded | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
I give up, nobody seems to be doing anything about this Obama-dude, it’s a waste of time protesting he’s got everyone in the media paid off ….he’s got too much money to throw around…MONEY IS POWER!!
Amanda | Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Geez, you all seem like a bunch of paranoid nutjobs. Why not move to Idaho a build a fortress?
Sally | Nov 25, 2008 | Reply
Obama did seem to come from nowhere and it was a very strange election season, a sense of unreality about it all. I do know how people might feel about Obama, because I felt the same way about GWB, I could not look at him or listen to him because all I could see was darkness and a sense of evil around him, I had no such feelings about Obama only a sense of caution about him. That said, it election itself wasn’t about Obama, it was about us, the people. We’ve changed, we’ve gotten stronger and we are tired of war and hatred. We want to come together now, there is a new sense of calm and that’s due to the Obama win. It doesn’t matter what we think the cause is, what does matter is the calm which will help us to individually center ourselves and to hear our inner voice. We cannot do that without a sense of calm and hope, we simply cannot. The events of the last 8 years have kept us in a state of fear and anxiety constantly. Even if it’s for a little while the calm is important if we are to gather our strength for what may come. We have to start looking at our family and community with a new sense of connection. 2012 is coming and with it a new sense of consciousness, we are growing toward that now. It doesn’t matter what the New World Order or governments think they are doing, it will not turn out in the long run the way they have planned, because their concepts simply will not work.
Mark | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Visit this link for info on The Obama Birth
Certificate:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
Gillybean | Dec 7, 2008 | Reply
Ms Joyce
I asked you before where you were getting your messages? I know … Why are you projecting doom and gloom? A lightworker you would share the truth.
I pray for the success of America and all Americans.
May the blessings be.
Erick Lynn Johnson | Dec 21, 2008 | Reply
I have just one thing to say I am getting sick and tired of all thease people putting Obama down, I know the reason why they are putting him down when it comes right down to it they don’t want a black man in office because the United states has been hatefull towards the black community for many years. I think its wrong we are all equal, and color should not matter if he was white I bet he would not be having all thease issues about his birth cirtificate the reason I see is there are so many sick hatefull people in this world and if your not old and white and a male they think you can not run the white house as president. Well I have read to much trash that everyone has come up with on Obama, but the truth is if Mccain would have gotten into office we would have been a lot worse off. Oh also wanted to let everyone know that I happend to be a carring white person that strongly cares for the black community and knows what they have been through from the white majority. May God bless this country and God bless Obama when he gets into office as our next president as he will need the help of God to get us out of this mess we are in if its not allready too late but I have more faith in Obama then I would ever have had in Mccain. Erick:
Pat | Dec 23, 2008 | Reply
Alrighty then. God bless us all!
Hahaha | Dec 24, 2008 | Reply
Elizabeth Joyce is exactly the kind of person that can not accept the world is changing. So to her, that means it must be changing for the worste. People like her belong in the dark ages where people are told how to think, can not speak out and can not be treated equally. What a knock. She probably just personifies the same messages everyone else has out there by putting her own little twist, and voila, she’s a psychic. And since this is her own web-site there are so many narrow minded people on this board. How can anyone prohibit the Creche manger nativity scene to be a banned public display. That was pure stupidity on her behalf to even post such nonsense. She’s defaming her own name and ability. She’s really fishing for the attention of her followers. She’s exactly why we need change in this nation. She’s leading people to believe her own foolish agenda because that’s how she makes her money. Greedy world. That’s all she wants is to lure people to coming back so she can extend her millions. She should be wary of judgment because she is engineering lies to her own benefit that leaves countless others to go astray. Wake up people.. Think for yourselves and let’s get our golden era started correctly.
Far from it | Dec 28, 2008 | Reply
These are hardly predictions, just political bashings. All you information is just from the media, and you claim as tough it is your own spiritial guidance. Tell us about events that we don’t expect, the ones that shape the year.